aww... this is bad. bilib pa naman ako sa mga ganyang immersion ng Ateneo. kasi sabi ng teacher ko nung high school, hindi lang utak ang binubusog sa dun pati puso.

grabe. totoo pa lang may ganyan. :(

This is...disheartening. Practically everyone I know had quite a blast at their immersion, my group included. -_-

putangina! ang OA lang! bwiset!

she's an uneducated rich girl. pathetic.

I've been in one of these myself, back in high school. Swear, ibang trip siya.

Which makes me even more annoyed that people could still think like this after such an experience.

IKR. Kahit nga Banlaw lang nung HS astig na e, binisita pa namin sila that Christmas para magpaparty sa kanila.

OA talaga. Nasisira rep ng Ateneo sa mga ganito e.

Yep, pathetic talaga. Sad, actually.

Wow, turns out that she's my barkada's former groupmate(AB Psych). He hated her too lol.

woah, bitch lang! haha..

shucks na sad ako.

She just should have not went and cooked up an excuse. Sigh some people talaga. I hope this blows up right back in her face.

If she truly feels that way, she should've kept her to herself. Stuff like this can bite her on the ass - like what's happening now.

haha akala ko ako yung kuya Eric sa taas haha. We were in the same batch that went to Tarukan, Capas, Tarlac. I don't really know her but i think she was just being honest and it took a lot of courage for her to go to immersion. May mga pinost akong pictures here sa multiply of the Aeta community..maganda ung place and super bait ng mga tao.

Disappointing.

I don't know what to make of it really; shallow yes, but she's like a fish out of the water, knowing absolutely *nothing* about what she had experienced. Disappointing, yes, but only if we deem her as someone who is not capable of changing her "outlook in life". Sana lang magbago siya. And sana hindi na lang na ito kumalat pa.

http://smoketalk.wordpress.com/ cited you as the source that she got Tracy's blog post from, and she actually gave a very fair, rather impartial opinion of the whole hoopla, which I think it'd benefit a lot of people to read.

Under normal circumstances, I wouldn't even be trolling people's personal accounts, so I apologize for being here, but that girl is my friend, and while I'm not condoning what she did or justifying anything she said (because really, it was extremely offensive, even to some of us who already understood her humor), it's kind of disappointing to see how easily people just dismiss her as some dumb bitch who doesn't deserve to live. That one blog entry isn't the entirety of her person.

People haven't really stopped to consider that she herself is a human being. She's just a name, a picture, and a bunch of offensive words that no strangers were even supposed to be reading in the first place.

What frustrates me about this whole issue is that people keep going on and on in their blog entries about how "they're spreading the posts so that more people know about this heinous bitch," and when I ask what for, some actually tell me that they're doing it so that "Tracy Isabel Borres learns something." What's she going to learn? That people on the Internet are self-righteous, tsismoso cunts? Some of these people have tried to get her in trouble with the school, but the school already knows about this, and right now, all they're really concerned about is that this insanity isn't affecting Tracy negatively, academically or emotionally. If the school can take it with a grain of salt, and understand that not everybody has a beautiful, mindblowingly enlightening immersion experience (because not everybody does), why can't everyone else?

I understand where the anger is coming from, believe me, I do, but I think that instead of further spreading the hate all over the Internet, where Tracy is obviously not looking because she knows what's out there, all these concerned, upstanding, moral, socially-aware citizens could be doing something more constructive. Doesn't everyone know her Facebook name by now? Doesn't everyone know what her photo looks like? Why don't they just take their grievances straight to her and message her on Facebook?

Or can they only bravely express how horrified they are and how awful they think she is on their own inviolable turf, where she's not looking and where nobody's standing up for her?

It's so easy to forward these screencaps because you don't know her. I think we all know at least five ridiculously offensive, insensitive people, but if they wrote shit like this and we read it, I highly doubt we'd screencap it and forward it all over the Internet unless we really, really hated them. Because we don't fuck over people we actually have to see. Otherwise, we'd be accountable.

Sorry for taking up so much space. I'm just really concerned about my friend; she's a better person than that, and I think it's shitty that someone who actually knew her had some sick fun at her expense. And now it's all been blown way out of proportion. Thank you for your time. :)

i have to give it to her though.. she's too honest for her own good...

Serpenskirt:

While my first reaction was to save the images to my hard drive for future lolz, your response was enough to make me think about things before reacting. Something a few of us here could really use.

"I'm quite sure 90% of us would have reacted the same way in such a situation, and the other 10 just won't admit it.

About this mess, I'm quite sure she's heard a hundred lectures and withstood a few withering looks, but if there's a lesson to be learned here, it's finding out that a little sensitivity in expressing yourself goes a long way in defining your public persona.

It IS unfair to judge her based on how she reacted to something that truly disgusted her, and we can't fault her either for what does or what doesn't. She's a product of her environment, and if anybody had a problem with that, one should look at their own and call it spotless first before judging hers. Lord knows I've gone "ew" at countless grubby street kids myself, but the difference is (and not that it makes me a better person), I've kept my mouth shut, online and off, and just resolved to do something about those who are responsible at some point in my life. Preferably sooner than later.

Anyway, good going at trying to defend her, but, I think only SHE can get the most positive mileage out of this brouhaha by personally penning something in response to those narrow minded and righteous few who are attempting to crucify her. Good luck."

Franco, sikat na ang blog mo!

The world is just awesome...Anyway, the real deal is outside of the safety zone of ours, that's why social immersion was created.

But my reaction would be...disappointed with the post.
Tanong ko lang kung ano kaya magiging reaction ng mga Heswita sa pangyayaring ito?

i really don't understand why some people got angry with her post. its an honest opinion anyway. it simply shows not everyone has the tolerance to meet with people below their social status.

i think people have been too judgmental about her. i see it as a perfectly normal reaction, considering from what perspective she came from. if you came from that kind of society/upbringing, is it your fault? no, i don't think so. just forget this issue and cut her some slack. this is too much gossip and personal slander.

-.-

people have too much time on their hands. go feed some street kids instead ._.

"nakakaawa" nga siya.

sa totoo lang ha.... she looks like an uglier version of Ai Ai.....

sinigangboy, I do understand where these people are coming from and you also raised a valid point.The only thing I am totally against is the personal attack.Why don't we focus on how to deal with these kind of people? What is the best way to introduce philanthropy, volunteerism, social service, etc to these kind of people? Obviously, Ateneo is still learning. Instead of judging, let us address the "why" question. Why do people react this way? Instead of judging, why don't we make calculated but objective assumptions? What she wrote was a breakthrough. It posed a lot of points that could give "us" (socially concerned individuals) something to work with when dealing with these kind of individuals. On her blog, she posted how her dad did not quite support or too happy about her immersion activity - but why did she go? How do you think Ateneo organizers should make a follow-up so they don't lose people like this? She is not a hopeless case - she is in shock. She needs time to process this kind of experience.Question, how much time does she need? what kind of neutralizing immersion activity would be good for her to ease whatever issues she got out of this experience? She will definitely not forget those children regardless of how much she abhor them. In fact, the more she does, the more it means she was really disturbed by what she saw.Something was not right - so what can be done?

"She did well - in my opinion. She did really well"

You really have a low standard for good judgment and manners if you think she did really well... You should grow up too!

arkigirl - been there done that... I'm living a very comfortable life. maybe much more comfortable than your little miss "kadiri" herself. One thing I can say is I'm not afraid and I am living with your so called "indigenous" people all my life. I live with them everyday.

hehehe... look who's calling the kettle black :)

Yeah you're right. sorry... I really can't blame the girl. I blame her parents for not teaching her "proper values" :)

Its not sayang - we don't know what will happen next or what can happen next. People can be very unpredictable - we can never tell how they respond to a situation. There's no such thing as one size fits all.Have a little bit of faith in people- you never know. You don't know you'd be in a similar situation - not exactly the same as you expect. Enlightenment comes to us in many different ways- very often, it catches you when you least expect it. So really, lets try not to be judgmental. It could happen to you or already happened to you except you just didn't verbalize it.

I did not say she is a great person - I don't know her at all to judge that. If I'm right, I don't think you know her at all. Point here is, her freedom is a reflection of our freedom. You have to remember, she is a private person- she is not in public service. She doesn't owe you or anyone of us any apology because she wrote that blog for her friends that she supposedly trusted. This is private information we are invading. I hope you realize that.

What bugs me the most is this; why do topics like this get more attention compared to topics that threatens our society as a whole?Well, in a way, this public scrutiny of this girl does. If we continue to allow this kind of topics to prevail, there goes invasion of privacy. We are all endangered. Is anyone taking an opinion on what is happening in Zimbabwe? in Congo? in Thailand? in Latin America? The bomb threats that could happen in the Philippines (highly likely) or topics on how to ensure that our society stop hating the Philippines? Or address issues why most Filipinos just can't wait to run away from the Philippines? or does any one ever pay attention of provinces outside of Luzon? or perhaps discuss cultural exchange between our communities? Or talk about cultural differences and think of ways to bridge the gap? Geez, why must topic like attacking or assassinating one's reputation merit more attention than those that really matters.

My point exactly. I do not agree. I am not justifying her actions - I said I understand her actions. Well, obviously you are not getting the whole point of my argument. You are right not to follow this argument because you are probably not mentally equipped to do so- and I am not saying you are stupid-your line of thought is just on a different track.Having said that, maybe you have to self-reflect who is justifying "what" here.

Here's Tracy's statement on the issue.

Its funny thinking abt highschool and all those nigger jokes ppl had which ppl said, ofcourse, in the context of barkada which was sans any sensitive people and definitely lacking authentic african americans. When people write they write for a specific audience in mind, if you read something with that context taken away, and instead replace it with your own context and own sensitivities then you're really bound to get hurt. Its like walking into a restaurant, sitting at the smoking area, and then complaining how inconsiderate some people are to be puffing all over the place.

But wait, do i condone this kind of thinking? You know I don't know yet, i think I attack it if it began to affect me, honestly. selfish. else I'd be alright so long as the person didnt broadcast it. Can we let people go on 'thinking' like this though, even if they dont broadcast it? ..and now lets discuss mind-wipes and the CIA ^^

I think the most constructive thing to do is to work on the Ateneo immersion system so it can reach out to people like this.


Ah, i ddnt notice mike abundo had a link here already. well here it is again. see Tracy's statement regarding the issue at his site.
http://mikeabundo.com/2008/12/10/tracy-isabel-borres-facebook/

grabe. may naalala ako sa kanya.
haha. panalo lang mga laiterangmayayaman na ganyan.
so conyo ha?!

there is wisdom in what Jesus said: "Judge not, that ye be not judged."

Tracy judged, so she is now being judged. all of us who criticized her, belittled her, said all sorts of bad things about her, will also get the same treatment - if not from other people, then from the great Judge Himself when we go before Him in the afterlife.

therefore, i believe we should all reflect on the wisdom of another thing that Jesus said: "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her."

you are absolutely correct. bloggers should expect to be judged for what they write. she should expect to be judged for what she wrote. we can judge her if we want to.

doesn't mean we have to.

Funny thing about this issue, whatever blog you read, it's almost always the same people defending her.

Looks like she has her own damage control staff.

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Re: who to blame for her behavior

It can't be the parents nor the Jesuits. A lot of rich kids in the Ateneo don't turn out to be unapologetic brats like her.

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Personally, the "let us not judge others" admonition is hogwash. Judging others is a good opportunity to make people aware how they are perceived.

she was in the kingdom of god. unfortunately, she didn't like it.

I knew Tracy from high school. She was my batchmate, but we were never close. And seeing where she came from, I think it's understandable why she has those opinions. (Not saying it's okay, just saying I get where she's coming from.) She obviously grew up in a VERY different environment.

But we have to look at ourselves, too. Would you touch your friend's booger? Would you let your little sibling wipe their mucous on you? I think not. What makes it okay for the indigenous children to do the same? Also, I wouldn't want a drunk guy to "hit on me". Aeta, taong-grasa, rich guy, or whatever. Seriously, guys.

Okay, maybe her ranting and mindset was paranoid, and yes, ditzy. But her reaction is just an exaggerated version of some of ours.

Maybe the children did stink. Maybe they were dirty. Maybe the narrated accounts were true. Only the people who went there could verify.

I know, I know. Her post comes to the public as terrible and horrible. But I think people should just remember that these are the opinions of a girl who grew up differently than many other people. And that the issue shouldn't be what she thinks, but by how she said them.

The issue here, I think, is tactfulness. She just has to know what to say or what not to say in public.

And guy, please don't say "Mayaman kasi." What she said would be a horrible thing to say, rich or otherwise.

Many posters said not to be harsh on

You guys Filipinos are not helping each other at all when one of your friends commit mistake. You even laugh at her and say whatever you like in order to destroy her. This kind of mentality should be eradicated.

asiopereira and enay, she is perfectly entitled to her opinions, however elitist and bigoted they may be. But by putting it on the Internet, on Facebook, on A PUBLIC SPACE, she opens herself up to criticism, which is well within the rights of other people.

Saberjade understands this point better, I think.

elektrapowers: I am rather amazed that your understanding of "privacy" as a word is to mean that it is not applicable over the internet.I would suggest you re-examine your understanding of what "privacy" and personal freedom mean.just because there is no known "law" or restrictions yet over the internet, that does not justify the act of invading someone's privacy. I would hope people develop or build some principles.Reposting this private blog from facebook is invasion of privacy.(facebook if you notice is not a free for all site).Facebook is not an open blogging site like Multiply.its not even a group page. This blog was taken from her private page.It doesn't take an Einstein to figure out that it is a private write-up.I hope you don't experience something worse - perhaps a sex tape, a voice tape, or an illegal transaction such as illegal downloading and someone could pick on you and blow it up as somethingelse, or whatever confidential info you may have be leaked out over the internet. You never know what can happen in the future u know.You never know where u will be.But if it does happen, I hope you remember, you were one of those people who supported that breach of information.Goodluck to you.

well said sinigangboy. well said.

How about this one…

For me, what this student has done was a stupid mistake - thinking aloud. I, myself is often guilty of that but I just keep it to myself. But then, I’d like to know how do you see the below. Supposed to be, this blogger is an intelligent person, matured, Fil-Am, and if I’m not mistaken, an executive in US. Just bear with me in our exchanges of emails. He is the most active Tracy basher).

(I t all started when I call him names like bastard and stupid for being sleazy with his posts on Palin candidacy. And his reply as posted on houseonahill blog which I’ve reposted in his blog because of his Bidets issue that he posted).

****
(Some of the caps are mine)

knock! knock! knock!

moonbats flying in the nite! AHEM! Did I hear somebody call my name?! GOT PASSPORT, READY TO SHOW IF NECESSARY, INCLUDING DIPLOMAS. Any takers???

pissed be with you

~fly~

*****

AHH… FORGOT SUM'TIN… ALSO HAVE MY VOTERS REGISTRATION - DEMOCRAT (GO OBAMA!) …. ERR 4 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS. SOMEONE PLEASE SHOW ME YOURS N I'LL SHOW U MINE.

pissed be with you

~fly~

(You've posted them as comments on a houseonahill blog and not just some sort of journal in a Facebook).

Cheers!

Pots calling kettle block or a case of hypocrisy?

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When I posted that in his blog (under his moderation of course), he emailed me this:

From: OFW [mailto:ofwcenter@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 1:58 AM
To: pensortijas@gmail dot com
Subject: Re: [reyna elena dot com] Please moderate: "Bidets in the Aeta community"

ALRIGHT BASTARD! THIS IS WHAT YOU WROTE AGAINST ME. AND BY THE WAY, I ALREADY KNOW WHO YOU ARE. THERE IS NO PRIVACY ON THE INTERNET…

… LOOKED LIKE I AM NOT THE ONE WHO IS HYPOCRITE. I READ YOUR RESPONSE THAT YOU'RE NOT EVEN AN AMERICAN. SO, WHAT'S THAT DEAL?

One of these days, I WILL OUT YOU.

I expect your response.

Reynz

And this one before that…

From: OFW [mailto:ofwcenter@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 8:15 PM
To: pensortijas@gmail dot com
Subject: Fwd: [reyna elena dot com] Please moderate: "Bidets in the Aeta community"

Oh, I put your comment on spam.

And the following exchanges of emails…

From: Pen Sortijas [mailto:pensortijas@gmail dot com]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 10:17 PM
To: 'OFW'
Subject: FW: [reyna elena dot com] Please moderate: "Bidets in the Aeta community"

Yup. You are correct. You will not see my mail in your inbox anymore. But those things that you’ve emailed could go a long long way in the blogsphere to unmask you and your sleazy blog.

I’ve to reformat my PC tonight since you have contaminated it and I have to ask our parish to exorcise it tomorrow.

From: OFW [mailto:ofwcenter@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 10:44 AM
To: Pen Sortijas
Subject: Re: [reyna elena dot com] Please moderate: "Bidets in the Aeta community"

You're damn right. Exactly how you wrote your stuff against! Please don't email me no more. I honestly don;t want to hear from you.

His last communication with me –

From: OFW [mailto:ofwcenter@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 10:22 PM
To: Pen Sortijas
Subject: Re: FW: [reyna elena dot com] Please moderate: "Bidets in the Aeta community"

Pen,

No worries. You can send them all to the internet however you want. You might be interested with my next entry. It will be about you. I will social climb with you hahaha! You don't have to unmasked me, I don't think i blocked you.

Welcome to my blog. In my entry, feel free to comment because I was befuddled with the similarity you have with Ellumbra.

Reynz.

Bigotry, Hypocrisy, Blackmail?

i pity her...

Read the entry.. like if i really have to say anything, but i say, it is (the blog)real. She may be bratty with her words but she's just accounting her experiences with no pretentions. Its the way she looks at her world(view from the top maybe but nonetheless), her personal account of what she experienced (does she need to be considerate about it? hence it would all be distorting her story, "her story").And seriously,no need to pray for her/her family's bankruptcy, not her fault she's rich nor she grew up that way.
But heck, she's got plenty of time still to live, and with all this comments circling the net, she's got a lot of issues to consider.

To this girl, its just a pity you werent able to appreciate nor sympathize with the aetas' status. Given you're blessed with wealth, hoped that your experience made a mark ( i think it did) and someday find a way back to them to share what you have. Appreciate that unlike you, that certain aeta boy has to wear his red short and oversized shirt over and over again.

argh.this is so pathetic tlaga.i mean. yes this is her opinion. but she didnt have to elaborately spill those kind of things. racial discrimination?oh ohhhh.looks bad.but i think we will get same reactions kung tayo ung andun.pero i think dapat tlga ndi gnon ung reaction nia.tsktsk.I FEEL.i think she should try putting herself in other's shoes?ano kya mafeel nia?hmm.

the problem is. she's overreacting and she's so like maarte!

to the defensive people out there :]

yes, everyone is entitled to his own opinion and if people react either positively or negatively to that opinion, she couldn't do anything about it because those people are also giving their opinions.

The internet is the most "unprivate" thing in this world and once you post something, you will never know how far it can get. You have no control over it. She must have known better. I think she is smart enough to know the impact her post can cause. If she really wants that only her closest friends would know about this thing, then she should have done something more private just to be sure nothing like this would happen.

i am not against her opinion about the aetas. i quite understand. Though I think what she did was quite careless. Hmmm.

Arkigirl, you seem so mad. Please respect others' opinions, yes you do understand miss Tracy but I hope you also understand why others reacted that way.

I hope you respect my opinion too, I do respect yours.

hehehe...this girl has a lot of friends i must say...hahaha...

i hope that her friends here truly believes that its worth standin up for this girl...

im hoping against hope that its worth it..

well this is completely pathetic. i expected a lot more from a well-educated person. FYI coming from a different environment does not justify what she wrote. seriously what do you expect when you go to those kind places? a spa centre? dont be an idiot!

and just a thought if you think there are many other issues that deserve more attention than this, then why post tons of comments here? (that confused me for a split second!) or unless you like the attention your getting here?

on another note, i think she should have realised beforehand that anyone could just read her stuff on facebook.

i'm going to make sure that my son, currently enrolled in Ateneo (prep), will not grow up like this!!!! how disappointing!

She's actually proud telling the whole world what a pretentious, self-centered, clueless bitch she is???? Ay! It takes all kinds :p

Matagal ko ng hinahanap ito. Haha. Ayus. Nabasa ko na rin. Haha.

Yuck Kadiri naman yang gurlash na yan, taga ATENEO BA YAN??? Pwedeng paki bato nyo yan at inapi masyado ang lahi namin, paki amoy din kung talagang mabango sya kasi sa pananalita pa lang nya parang ANG BAHO BAHO NYA HITSURA AT UGALI NAKAKASUKA!!!! GANYAN BA ANG PRODUKTO NG ATENEO???

TANGNA TANGNA TANGNA

wao. bad case of culture shock.

good luck in the real world girl. hehe

sobrang nasisira ang name ng Ateneo. Ginagawa ng Ateneo ang lahat para mahubog ang kanyang estudyante na may Takot sa Diyos. Hindi ko alam kung gaano katigas ang puso ng babaeng ito....

hmm,she posted those just to appear cute and comical to her friends? how profound naman ng cranium nya. Some people are praising her for being blunt which is a reality but for the wrong reasons. In fact,it's tactless,unrefined and uncivilized (to think that she comes from a prestigious institution in the country) Do you really have to malign other people's inconvenience just for the sake of being funny?

de buena familia Borres? HA!Her conduct doesnt come close with the sophistication of any European royalty.

Hay dapat ang mga kagaya nya ang kinikidnap ng Abu Sayaff o di kaya ipakain sa mga buwaya sa Agusan marsh.

hay she posted it to reflect her dark,quirky humor to her chic friends. Wow.So profound naman!
What was she thinking? She was a polished diamond? Her conduct showed she was really just charcoal. She distinguished herself breeming with class and sophistication but she doesnt come close to any European royalty. She may belong to the upper class in Manila but she`s no Vanderbilt or Bettencourt! What on earth are her parents instilling on her? You despise aetas because they are yucky unlike you a princessita here but my dear,for the love of God,next to a French heiress,you`re just a DOORMAT!

well how`s that for my DARK,QUIRKY HUMOR?

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The way I interpreted this statement is that seemingly to you all "IP's live in such a condition. IP's in fact is just a label. When the Spaniards and Americans occupied the Philippines, they called the inhabitants(yes, your acenstors) indio, meaning indian/indigenous. Now the majority are not referred to indigenous. It has been passed to the 'cultural minorities' who do not share the same culture as the majority. But if you look at it, an IP would be a native of. hey aren't like 90% of Filipinos "IP" by this case? There is nothing hypocritical living with the labeled IPs with ease. I lived amongst the Igorots for 22 years. I was born and raised in Baguio, surrounded by many Igorot peers and classmates